01/09/09 :: [SOA] Can Anne be more Wrong? [permalink]
Anne decided to drop the rhetoric and explain what were her motivations.
My real point is that we should not be talking about an architectural concept that has no universally accepted definition and an indefensible value proposition. Instead we should be talking about concrete things (like services) and concrete architectural practices (like application portfolio management) that deliver real value to the business.
Anne is asking us to turn away from Architecture. This is precisely what has been so wrong with SOA for 10 years now. This is what no one ever got at Systinet, this is why Systinet ended being a "SOA registry company" after realizing that Infravio had opened up that market. We have no universally accepted definition and indefensible value proposition precisely because we are not talking about it, or when we talk we get lost in silly rhetorico-political discussions (pick your favorite: Integration, JABOWS, REST, Dead or Alive...) with people that have no other objectives than sticking their little name up the software industry post.
Anne's statement is so silly that even Duane Nickull was able to make a sensible comment about SOA, which happens probably once every 5 years.
Now correct me if I am wrong, but SOA is "Service Oriented Architecture". Is Paul implying that architecture that is oriented around services is itself dead, yet the services will exist? This makes no sense as everything has an architecture, whether explicit or not.
Actually, Anne's argument is so silly that I even have to agree with Stefan who equates CRUDing with SOA:
I think there is a strong case to be made for the core ideas of SOA. In fact, I don't think there's an alternative.
Tremendous architecture concepts have been born over the last 20+ years. We have a unique opportunity to bring these concepts together (unlike the OASIS SOA RM) and all that a little clique of pundits can come up with is "let not talk about it"... (with my Cluso accent) "Zhere is a financial crizis, su let zus duck behind our desk and sip our lattes".
Note that this is also true of BPM, so nothing specific about SOA.
Pathetic.